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« on: October 27, 2008, 01:32:16 PM » |
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There will be a by-election in East Wickham ward (LB Bexley) due to the sad death of one of the sitting Conservative councillors.
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Zoe
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 04:42:13 PM » |
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Alfred Webster Catterall The Conservative Party Candidate 1362 13.5 Elected Sheila Clark British National Party 601 5.9 Malcolm Frederick Clarke UK Independence Party 289 2.9 Richard John Everitt The Labour Party Candidate 860 8.5 John-Anthony Fitzpatrick English Democrats - Putting England First 392 3.9 James Kenneth Albert Hunt The Conservative Party Candidate 1234 12.2 Elected John Lawrenson The Labour Party Candidate 937 9.3 Sylvia Malt The Labour Party Candidate 833 8.2 Surinder Singh Manak Liberal Democrats 564 5.6 Christopher Marshall UK Independence Party 209 2 Pamela Margorie Perrin UK Independence Party 211 2.1 Anthony Alan Pickett Liberal Democrats 681 6.7 David Frederick Sexton Liberal Democrats 604 6 Michael George Tarrant The Conservative Party Candidate 1340 13.2 Elected
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Pete Whitehead
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 05:39:27 PM » |
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This used to be a LD/Lab marginal, and before that quite safely LD. in 1998 for example it elected 2 LDs and 1 Labour with Tories in a very poor third - 2002 2 Lab 1 LD. Tories gained all three seats in 2006 as the LDs collapsed. The BNP got a good vote, beating one of the LD candidates and there were also sizeable votes for UKIP and the English Democrats. I suppose the BNP wont contest this by-election, preferring to go off and fight in Kensal Rise or somewhere like that..
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JimPage
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 11:01:37 AM » |
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Based on the GLA ward level results for the assembly, not the most noted stronghold of Bolshevism in London, I see
Conservative 1452 BNP 530 Labour Party 510 Lib Dem 234 UKIP 160 Abolish Con Charge 102 Green Party 95 English Democrat 74 Christian Choice 72 Respect 8 One London 6 Left List 5 Peace & Socialism 2 Alagaratnam, Rathy 0
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JimPage
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 01:46:12 PM » |
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Michael Barnbrook BNP candidate here. The Tory campaign wuld be better to descibe them simply as Fascists As to why UAF are supporting the Lib Dems here- especially as they came 4th, I have no idea. If you follow the logic of the UAF campaign here, antifascists will be out canvassing for the tories here as the best placed candidate to beat the BNP. Which for any Marxist may create a wee but of a problem...
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Crimson King
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 02:22:59 PM » |
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As to why UAF are supporting the Lib Dems here- especially as they came 4th, I have no idea.
One would like to think it is from ideological commitment in the face of electoral dissapointment but more likely and practically it is probably because (as noted elswhere) in areas whare LDs are not part of the etablishment (clearly the case here) they will be the repository of some of the 'plague on both your houses' vote, and better there than with the BNP
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Pete Whitehead
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 03:09:19 PM » |
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From the UAF website What is the betting you will not be asked to destribute anti BNP leaflets ? You will be asked to distribute for the Focus Team !
No! this is a sordid attempt by the Liberals to con Anti Fashists into doing thier election work for them.
I think thats pretty spot on. The LDs have fallen apart in this area and dont have the campaigners locallly that they used to so theyre using the BNP 'threat' to rope in people who otherwise wouldn't support them. I think the idea that the LDs are not part of the political establishemtn is outdated. A vote for them here would more likely split the 'anti-BNP' vote (more accurately perhaps the non-BNP vote). I think the Conservatives will hold and BNP come second - LD votes could come as much from the Tories and put the BNP in with a chance of winning. If lots of people voted LD that is, which they wont
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Revrod
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 03:35:03 PM » |
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Michael Barnbrook BNP candidate here. The Tory campaign wuld be better to descibe them simply as Fascists As to why UAF are supporting the Lib Dems here- especially as they came 4th, I have no idea. If you follow the logic of the UAF campaign here, antifascists will be out canvassing for the tories here as the best placed candidate to beat the BNP. Which for any Marxist may create a wee but of a problem... And Jim, you still wonder why people vote for the BNP? If you can't even understand why people vote for another party, what good does it do telling them not to vote for it?
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"Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free"
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 06:04:03 PM » |
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If you follow the logic of the UAF campaign here, antifascists will be out canvassing for the tories here as the best placed candidate to beat the BNP. Which for any Marxist may create a wee but of a problem... I doubt they will, in many areas they campiagn for Labour or "just vote for anyone other than BNP". I, like many are opposed to the BNP, however negative campaigning and telling the electorate to vote in a set way isn't very popular. The UAF will be giving the BNP free publicity in my view.
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Simon Cooke
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 07:47:49 PM » |
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The 'Searchlight' folk campaigned for Conservative candidates in Keighley (bless 'em). But here they're most likely going with the people they're closest to - no loony lefties so the Lib Dems are the closest alternative (but not lefties of course).
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Neil M
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2008, 03:57:49 PM » |
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And Jim, you still wonder why people vote for the BNP?
If you can't even understand why people vote for another party, what good does it do telling them not to vote for it?
Sums it up nicely.
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Ils vont ont ruinés, ils vous ont spoliés, ils s’unissent pour le pire!
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 10:09:22 PM » |
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There is some fascinating stuff here. Very revealing (and not about the BNP!)
Tony Greaves
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2008, 11:12:25 PM » |
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Indeed Tony. Most people here have no clue about the ward or the present state of Bexley politics which has moved a long way since the last council elections. The GLA results are totally irrelevant. The Tories have the highest Council Tax of any neighbouring borough. They have slashed services. The former council leader, who is now one of Boris's deputies, has hardly been backward in looking after himself and of course the constituency MP is Derek Conway. Labour's campaigning in the recent Christchuch byelection in Bexley was poor, and they came 4th. The Lib Dems are motivated far more than at the last council elections and we are already campaigning hard... I have ignored the debate here up to now, and will probably continue to do so, because it is a handful of people out of touch with reality.
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Richard Williams
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 03:09:21 PM » |
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You would say that wouldn't you Duncan. After all your wife Grace is the Lib Dem candidate.
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